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image by Jorge Candeias, 8 Jan 2005
The flag is blue with a white lozenge that touches the edges and a red
initial "H" in the center. And the caption is sheer clarity: J. Hagen.
Jorge Candeias, 8 Jan 2005
image by Jarig Bakker, 21 Jan 2005
Hamburg-Bremen Afrika Linie, Bremen; white flag, black key; in
corners red "HBAL".
Image after Brown's Flags and Funnels of British and Foreign Steamship
Companies, compiled by F.J.N. Wedge, Glasgow, 1926 [wed26]
Jarig Bakker, 21 Jan 2005
I have two questions:
- The company's flag is green-white-black. Sometimes the flag had a
cock in the middle which is a wrong allusion to the German word "Hahn"
(cock). Since when is this flag in use?
- Since when is it usual that shipping companies have their own house
flags?
Daniela Stemmer, 25 Oct 2004
Sources The US Navy 1961, Flaggen der Binnenschiffahrt of 1973 and Unvergessene Dampfschiffahrt auf Rhein und Donau by Walter Michels in 1967 are the only records I have of a flag for Franz Haniel & Cie. GmbH and all show a plain tricolour of green over white over black with the last mentioned having a photo of the "Franz Haniel XXIII" c.1913 flying a plain triband of this design but as it is black and white one can only assume that is the company flag flying from the foremast and there is another one at the rear of the wheelhouse which is probably the normal ensign. Hand written by the owner of US Navy are the comments that it was used for barges only with seagoing vessels using the flag of Oldenburg-Portugiesische Dampfschiff-Rhederei GmbH & Co. K.G. who managed such vessels going by Lloyds.
The barges seem to have ceased in the late 1960s, they show in Lloyds 1966-7 but my next one is 1970-1, when they are shown as operating one of their seagoing vessels, "Tazacorte" with the rest still under O-P, but by 1973-4 this ship does not show and the rest are still under O-P, still showing the same in 1980-1 but by 1985-6 Haniel no longer appears in Lloyds.
I assume from Michel's book that the flag dates well back, 1756 seems to be the formation date, but as my German is very basic I could be getting that wrong.
As far as when companies can have houseflags the answer is whenever
they want them. Some small one ship companies have had quite eleborate
designs even though they have quickly faded from the scene whilst other
larger firms have never bothered. So there is no hard and fast rule. It
all comes down to a means of identification and these days, advertising.
The identification is the main thing being done mainly by the flag or the
funnel. In this case the Haniel Elbe vessels seem to all have had plain
black funnels so that just left the flag. As for how long it was used,
I would guess that "Tazacorte" was the last vessel to fly it but
thereafter depends on what happened to the company. From your message it
sounds like she is still an employee so that would mean they now have other
interests.
Neale Rosanoski, 27 Oct 2004
image by Santiago Dotor, 11 Nov 2003
Dov Gutterman spotted the link
of HANSE Bereederung - Blue - white disk, red H.
Santiago Dotor, 11 Nov 2003
image by Santiago Dotor, 11 Nov 2003
Dov Gutterman spotted the link
of Hanseatic (Bremen) - Red - white disk, outlined H.
Santiago Dotor, 11 Nov 2003
image by Santiago Dotor, 11 Nov 2003
Dov Gutterman spotted the link
of Hanseatic Shipping & Chartering GmbH - Horizontal Red - White
- Blue, reversed at the hoist; in center outlined blue oval, blue "HSC".
Santiago Dotor, 11 Nov 2003
image by Jarig Bakker, 14 Dec 2004
Hanseatische Dampf Gesellschaft, Lübeck - red flag; white letters
"H.D.G".
Image after Brown's Flags and Funnels of British and Foreign Steamship
Companies, compiled by F.J.N. Wedge, Glasgow, 1926 [wed26]
Jarig Bakker, 14 Dec 2004
image by Jarig Bakker, 13 Nov 2003
I found a companion to the Glahr-houseflag
with reversed colors in "See und Seefahrt", by G.A. Wolter, 1968
- Hanseatischer Afrika-Dienst.
Dov Gutterman, 2 Nov 2003
image by Jarig Bakker, 17 Feb 2005
A. Hansen, Flensburg - blue flag, white "A.H.".
Image after Brown's Flags and Funnels of British and Foreign Steamship
Companies, compiled by F.J.N. Wedge, Glasgow, 1926 [wed26]
Jarig Bakker, 17 Feb 2005
image by Jorge Candeias, 2 Mar 1999
White with a greyish blue lowercase 'h', in italics, shifted to the
fly. The lower 'leg' of the 'h' stretches to the hoist creating a relatively
narrow stripe over which are two other stripes in dark red and black.
Jorge Candeias, 2 Mar 1999
Hartmann Reederei. This refers to what is now Hartmann Schiffahrts GmbH
& Co. K.G. which dates from 1981, originally as Alfred Hartmann.
Neale Rosanoski, 18 Oct 2004
image by Jarig Bakker, 6 Nov 2003
Dov Gutterman reported the link
of Albert Hauschild (GmbH & Co.), which contains the houseflag of said
firm, as well as the rather similar flag of Klingenberg
Bereederungs- und Befrachtungs OHG. Hauschild's flag is: white with broken
capitals: green A, and black H.
Santiago Dotor, 6 Nov 2003
image by Jorge Candeias, 3 Dec 2004
The flag is simple and clear: a white cloth with two black "H" that
share a common leg. But the caption is a nightmare. Speculating a lot,
I could say it's something like "H. W. Hremans". Let's hope it pops up
in some other source.
Jorge Candeias, 3 Dec 2004
It's No. 588 in the on-line 1912
Lloyds Flags & Funnels: 'H.W. Heidmann, Hamburg'.
Jan Mertens, 4 Dec 2004
image by Jarig Bakker, 30 Sep 2005
Helmsing & Grimm G.m.b.H. & Co., Hamburg; white burgee,
blue disk.
Image after Brown's Flags and Funnels Shipping Companies of the World,
compiled by J.L. Loughran, Glasgow, 1995 [lgr95]
Jarig Bakker, 30 Sep 2005
image by Jarig Bakker, 7 Feb 2005
Wilhelm Hemsoth, Hamburg - white flag, tapered blue saltire,
in center yellow disk with two black hammers in saltire; in white top and
bottom black "WH".
Image after Brown's Flags and Funnels of British and Foreign Steamship
Companies, compiled by F.J.N. Wedge, Glasgow, 1926 [wed26]
Jarig Bakker, 7 Feb 2005
image by Al Fisher
Blue flag with a wide red stripe, fimbriated white, from bottom hoist
to top fly, bearing a white anchor. On the top hoist a white letter 'R',
on the bottom fly a white letter 'H'.
Santiago Dotor, 17 May 2005
image by Jarig Bakker, 7 Feb 2005
Holm & Molzen, Flensburg - blue flag, white 7-pointed star
Image after Brown's Flags and Funnels of British and Foreign Steamship
Companies, compiled by F.J.N. Wedge, Glasgow, 1926 [wed26]
Jarig Bakker, 7 Feb 2005